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It’s the hand that put you over the top. Or the two cards you held that time you were rivered for a monster pot. Everyone has “the hand,” that one that you remember no matter how many more tournaments or cash games played. PokerNews takes a look at those hands that stick with players and relive the glory, or misery, depending on the results.
Comedian Norm Macdonald made his way to the Rio on Sunday and was playing in a few sit 'n' go tournaments in the Pavilion after busting in the Monster Stack. The actor, writer, and comedian is a regular poker player and in town to play some events at the WSOP. Macdonald will also perform at the South Point Showroom from June 29 to July 1.
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A veteran comedian, many may remember him as the host of Weekend Update on “Saturday Night Live” from 1996-98 as well as his impressions of Burt Reynolds, David Letterman and Larry King. Netflix also recently announced Macdonald had been signed for a 10-episode talk show called “Norm Macdonald Has a Show.”
When it came to the hand Macdonald remembers, his definitely tiled to the misery side.
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When asked about a hand he can’t forget, one night at the Mirage came instantly to mind. He was playing in a $40/$80 limit hold’em cash game with a woman he regularly played with. In one hand, he was dealt pocket queens and the two got tangled up in a monster pot.
“The betting got crazy at the end, but she had mercy on me and let me off the hook.”
“She was dealt pocket kings, and I flopped quads,” he says.
Macdonald looked to be in great shape, but then there was a pretty sick runout on the table as they kept betting.
“Then she turned and rivered quad kings,” he says. “The betting got crazy at the end, but she had mercy on me and let me off the hook.”
At the end, Macdonald believes there were 12 bets back and forth between the two with no capped number of river raises. By the time it was over, the pot swelled to $6,600 and Macdonald came out on the short end of a massive cooler. To make things worse, unfortunately there wasn’t a bad beat jackpot.
“There should have been right?” he says laughing. “That would have been way better.”
Bad Beat Jackpot?
While there wasn’t a bad beat jackpot on that hand, Macdonald does remember a time he won something for a bad beat, thought it wasn’t quite what he expected.
“I did win a bad beat jackpot once at the Mohegan Sun, and they came back with a jacket,” he says. “I still have the jacket, but I would rather have had some money.”
“I still have the jacket, but I would rather have had some money.”
Macdonald has career tournament winnings of more than $44,000 with his best cash at the WSOP coming in 2013 in a $3,000 No-Limit Hold'em. He finished 20th for $14,608. Before Black Friday, Macdonald admits that he was a regular online player – playing as many as 20 limit hold’em games at once.
“Since they went offline, it kind of saved my life,” he says. “Because I was just grinding out and couldn’t even sleep. The good thing about [playing online] was it was just fold, fold, fold fold, fold – it was all ABC poker.”
This summer, the comedian plans to play as many as five events as well as the Main Event. When PokerNews caught up with him, Macdonald had busted the Monster Stack and had won a sit 'n' go. He then finished runner-up in another sit 'n' go after deciding against a deal for the money when heads-up. He was a little frustrated afterward and had a pang of regret.
“I should have taken that deal,” he said. Ever the poker player, however, Macdonald had a reason for playing on, noting: “I really wanted to practice playing heads-up.”
Sean Chaffin is a freelance writer in Crandall, Texas. His work appears in numerous websites and publications. Follow him on Twitter @PokerTraditions. He is also the host of the True Gambling Stories podcast, available on iTunes, Google Play, TuneIn Radio, Spotify, Stitcher, PokerNews.com, HoldemRadio.com, and TrueGamblingStories.com.
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Any help you can provide?
Odds are 100% I think.
For the way it was worded, that's a great reply.But for a real answer, I suggest Naomi read the following page:
http://wizardofodds.com/games/texas-hold-em/bad-beat-jackpots/
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For the way it was worded, that's a great reply.
But for a real answer, I suggest Naomi read the following page:
That won't even help. That page is just for bad beats for hands of a minimum rank (with both hole cards) beaten by any higher hand (with both hole cards).
This would require a new tedious calculation, unfortunately.
Since I am math illiterate I can't tell you or explain it to you. But I remember seeing some report somewhere that said the odds of it happening at your table are something like one in forty-thousand hands or about the odds of hitting a royal flush.
I have been at a jackpot table about six or seven times in the past 8 years or so. I have never been the winner or loser in a jackpot situation.
edited to add: found this on the web http://www.pokerlistings.com/strategy/general-poker/the-truth-about-bad-beat-jackpots
Yes, I understand if a player has aces full of kings, quad jacks or higher will definitely beat the hand. What I am looking for is the odds behind actually having those hands dealt.
Easy answer: not good...lol
Hard answer: It depends on a few factors. The biggest factors are: How many players are at the table? Do both hole cards have to be used? Technically it also matters on players' playing style (how often they fold preflop). This last factor is often ignored though because it can't easily be easily quantified. Without telling us these things, it's pretty difficult for us to give you a reasonable answer.
Both hole cards must be used in the hands.
I can't speak to the playing style, as it will differ.
Within each of those two, there are various options for suited board cards such that you'd be able to get beaten with a royal. But for each, just go through each configuration and figure out how many hands beat it. There aren't so many to make it prohibitive to do it by hand. For example:Pocket AA, Board AKKXY:
a) if X=Y and the opponent has the other two, you lose. For the ranks you care about, that can only happen with J or Q, not A or K.
b) if X and Y are suited to either A or K and within straight range, you can lose to a straight flush
c) if X or Y are suited to A and one K and are Q/J/T, you can lose to a royal flush.
Obviously there are some overlaps in the above so you'll need to factor those out. But that's basically how to do it, assuming you're only talking about one player beating another.